Well this section shouldn't take me too long to write since there are only two options here. The previous codex had unlocks for several things to become troops from other FOC slots. Wazdakka could make Warbikers troops, a Big Mek made a Deff Dread a troop option and a Warboss unlocked a unit of Nobz. All of these options have now vanished so there's just Boyz and Gretchin left. Whilst there are many people lamenting the loss of the unlockable troops I'm not sure it's as much of an issues as people believe. Looking at it from a 6th edition perspective it would be detrimental but with 7th edition all units count as scoring. The only time Troops matter is when they form part of a Combined Arms detachment as it gives Objective Secured. It remains to be seen how popular it will be but the Ork Horde detachment opens up 3 HQs slots and potentially gives Hammer of Wrath but doesn't give Objective Secured. That means it really doesn't matter where the units have come from.
This is something GW are obviously keen to encourage and the new wave of codices will be interesting in the different force organisation charts and formations they come with. Whilst we're on that subject I'll be reviewing Waaagh! Ghazghkull when I've had a chance to go through it. From what I've read it seems like it opens up the Ork codex dramatically but for now I'll focus on the rules in the codex itself.
Ork Boyz
The main changes to Ork Boyz came with the change to Mob Rule and the new 'Ere We Go! rules. They also benefit from the removal of Focus Fire as you can take better advantage of cover with bigger units. The Waaagh! rules now allow them to charge a considerable distance. This was the same in 5th edition but at the time there were plenty of other units that could do the same. Now the Orks are the only ones who can run and charge (at least as far as I can remember). The basic boy hasn't changed very much. He still costs the same but you now get stikkbombs thrown in. This isn't really a huge bonus given the low initiative of the Orks but it might make the difference when charging a unit with power fists/thunder hammers etc through terrain.
The slugga/choppa boy may be effectively the same but the shoota boy is now a point more expensive. This isn't a huge issue as I think you're probably better getting them into combat as quickly as possible. People will still run them though I'd expect. I'm still not totally decided on which is better. On the one hand the extra attack could make a huge difference and hits on a 4+ against most things. The shoota shots however could soften up a target before a charge. With the ability to re-roll one of the charge range dice there's less risk of killing too many and failing a charge but the issue is still there. Ultimately it'll come down to personal preference and I've got a stack of slugga/choppa boyz from Black Reach that kind of decide it for me!
Finally, it's worth noting that you can make all units into 'ard boyz now and give them 'eavy armour. Not sure I'd bother though for the cost. They end up more expensive than fire warriors in that case and will still die pretty easily. Not totally out of the question though as it would make them a lot more resilient to bolter fire etc.
Trukks
Figured I may as well cover these here as they'll most often be used for transporting boyz around. They're pretty similar but an absolute bargain with their points reduction. The rules for Ramshackle have changed though giving them the ability to convert a penetrating hit to a glance on a 6. This gives a small boost to survivability which is always nice. The old rules did more to protect the occupants though as they kept the hits from an explosion at S3 and hat the potential to send the trukk forward. Not to mention Kerrunch! used to have one of my favourite lines in a codex ever "the Ork passengers bail out of their vehicle before it falls apart with a noise like a Meganob falling down a spiral staircase".
Sadly for Trukk's Red Paint Job now only works when moving Flat Out but interesting the big shoota can be swapped for a rokkit for free. It's debatable which is better but I like the idea of a cheeky S8 shot from a trukk instant killing an enemy character or destroying an enemy vehicle. Trukks were never durable enough to both upgrading more than their paintjob but when it's free, why not? Throw a rokkit in the unit inside too (which are also cheaper) and you can generate quite a number of S8 shots across your army, if inaccurate ones.
Finally, interestingly boarding planks are now 10pts more expensive but give a 2" bonus to charge range. Not worth 50% increase to the cost of a trukk but still, interesting. Not sure why you'd take a stikkbomb chukka though, not that there was a reason before.
Gretchin
Grots were used for two things in the old codex, a meatshield for boyz to give a 5+ cover save or as late game objective grabber. A unit of gretchin is now slightly cheaper now but they're still going to be used for the same roles. Won't stop me taking them though as there's always that joy when a couple of terminators fall to a plucky grot unit. They're a compulsory requirement of the Ork Warband formation too so I expect we'll see at least the odd unit here and there. Since you'll likely be taking the other parts of the formation anyway, throwing in a unit of grotz for Waaagh! every turn seems a small price to pay!
Conclusion
The question is, how to run your ork boyz. Neither a 30-man blob nor a 12-man trukk unit can gain any benefit from their numbers as they did with the old mob rule so I actually think the trukk unit might just have the edge now. Blast up in your trukk turn one and then call a Waaagh! turn two to all but guarantee combat. The big squads were great when they were Fearless but I'd rather lose 9 boyz to a failed morale test for 25% casualties than I would 22 boyz! As ever it depends on your playstyle and how the rest of the army is constructed. It's harder to get trukks a save from a KFF now so the castling of the old codex isn't really effective. Still, 12 boyz in a trukk with a rokkit only costs just over a hundred points and is a mobile scoring unit (with Objective Secured in the right detachment). That's assuming you don't bother with a nob of course which makes more sense in the Ork Horde detachment where you could have 9 trukks full of Orks for around 900 pts and still give you the rest of your 1,850pts to spent on heavier stuff. Tempting.
Having said all that Open Topped still causes an S4 hit on the occupants for an explosion but also for the surrounding models. Several trukks going up in a small space could be devastating to the boyz inside and being able to flame the occupants of a trukk doesn't help. Mind you, vehicle explosions are a lot less likely now.
I think the order of the day with Troops is to keep costs to a minimum. Tempting to throw in the usual nob with a klaw but since he gives you no leadership bonus the points could perhaps be better spent elsewhere. Having said that he may benefit from the challenge changes as his excess attacks can be applied to the squad if he gets called out by a sergeant.
I would say Mob Rule makes nobs useful/mandatory.
ReplyDeleteonce again, I nice roundup of the troops section. But isn't the only reason to field a mob of boyz that you can put in a nob powerklaw ? It's a shame that you can't upgrade them to 'eavy armor anymore. Another small fun detail that got removed. And I don't know why, because they keep adding other small stuff which is completely useless, like stikkbombchukkas for the trukks, EVERYONE got stikkbombs as you mentioned, or the custom mek pistol which is a custom mega blasta with a max range of 12" ... why ?!
ReplyDeleteConcerning the ways to field orkz, the FOC changes are gone, which is sad. And at first I liked the idea of detachments and formations. But I start to really dislike them now, the whole game gets very confusing now, as different units are from different detachments, but they are all boyz and look the same. I think that you lose start to lose the overview and who which special detachment rules and/or limitations.
And the problem is, many people don't know the rules of their army, that's ok, we are only humans. But this is making things worse
It is a shame about the 'eavy armour and I agree stikkbombs seem fairly useless. The nob with a klaw would help with Mob Rule as Anon above points out.
DeleteNot keen on detachments/formations either. I'm going to post about it but I find the whole thing confusing and think it's near impossible to keep track of for your opponents.
... i had typed up a reply about trukks and stikkbomb chukkas and upon hitting submit it logged me out and erased everything.... so i'll try this again...
ReplyDeletetrukks can use the stikkbomb chucka as a ranged weapon, and since they're vehicles, they don't have to give up another weapons firing to do it. at range 8, str 3 it'snot the best of options, but it's handy against swarm options.
trukks taken as a fast attack option allow you to mount up units of grots without using up a battlewagon slot. before you laugh so hard that you break your chair.... grots do hit on a 4+, and in a CAD are incontestable, which if you ever play maelstrom missions is worth twice their weight in gold.