As the name suggests the tournament is partly about the fluff (background of 40K and its armies and representing that on the table), but it's more about creating an event where everyone can come and hopefully have some enjoyable games of 40K with different people, well I suppose it's also about winning since it is a tournament….
Anyway, what makes this different?
But basically it's 3 different games of 40K in a competitive setting with certain restrictions to army lists and some slight modifications to rules.
The army limitations are intended to prevent the typical competitive lists from being present and instead should encourage people to think outside the box a bit and bring something a bit different and a bit more varied (maybe even a bit fluffy!).
There are loads of prizes on offer, some for coming top and some for coming top of the fluffy lists (seriously read the tournament pack). But there'll also be some mystery prizes that certain players will receive for round specific goals, revealed on the day.
I really hope people will give it a go and if it is a success I would like to make it a regular event that of course, it will get tweaked based on feedback I receive from people who have attended.
Alex - Please feel free to comment here with any queries and Matt will get back to you. Personally I'm looking forward to a tournament that encourages people to try something different and also one that I don't have to run myself!!
Sounds like a good, fun idea! I won't be able to make it sadly as my wife and I are due to have out second hold the next day, but I'll keep an eye out for next year!
ReplyDeleteThis looks right up my street, but ..........
ReplyDeleteI don't own a single non spammy army :-) not disgusting cheese I just love multiple units
Space marines 4 tac squads in rhinos and three dev squads
Necrons all monoliths and warriors
Grey knights thirty terminators
Space wolves all grey hunters in drop pods
I don't see any of the above as overpowered and the only one I have a better than laughable win/loss with is the space wolves. But I would argue vociferously all would take some beating as fluffy.
I'd definately be interested if you changed the army selection, I'll be at BW9 with a necron warrior horde hope to see you there. Good luck the tournie sounds brilliant.
I understand totally and I do realise that many fluffy armies have multiple units of the same type. The restrictions are to prevent filth and to encourage people to bring something different, maybe try out that unit that never sees the tabletop. I know this makes it hard to represent a faction properly, but that is part of the challenge, plus it is easier with some factions compared to others.
DeleteAlso reading what you have said you have isn't too far away from legal for the tournament.
Delete20 GK terminators in 2 squads is fine
A Necron decurion detachment is all good with 2 large squads of warriors and a couple of monoliths!
I know but having a third unit type just triggers my OCD :-)
DeleteReally it sounds like a great event and I hope it goes well
I am definitely up for this.
ReplyDeleteHowever quick question, ideally I'd want to bring my black tide Black Templars I am bringing but this includes 20 man squads of crusaders plus neophytes. Technically the starting size of the squad is 5 which you can then upgrade to 10 plus a neophyte for each Initiate.
Does this mean I am limited to having 10 initiates or 5 initiates plus 5 neophytes? Or because you are taking a separate kind of model (initiate vs neophyte) could I take a unit of 10 initiates with 10 neophytes?
Its a very fluffy kind of horde that has so far been shot to pieces every time it plays but it doesn't sound like it fits in the rules. No worries if not!
Thanks in advance :)
Send me a list and I'll have a look. Idea sounds fluffy at least!
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ReplyDeleteI shall check my work diary & I'll be there if possible with a fluffy Blood Angels list sir!
Isn't this what Blog Wars was supposed to be - with the special character rule ect.? I love the idea of a "fluffy" few games of 40k, but unfortunately despite the rich background the game just isn't designed to be played fluffy. Some armies are massively unbalanced, some only have FW options to fill massive gaps in their force (like Choas Space Marines) and some people, no matter the intention will just play the list that destroys their opponents and isn't meant to be "fun".
ReplyDeleteI don't envy you trying to get this going, but i'll definitely come and support your efforts!
Thanks for agreeing to come along and support the event. I agree that 40k will never be balanced and people will always come to a tournament to try and win and therefore bring strong lists. I still fully expect people to bring strong armies and play to win, it is a tournament after all and there are prizes for winning. I'm just hoping that the limitations and fluffy prizes will encourage people to try and win in a different way with different lists to what is normally seen on the top tables. I'm not sure I will achieve these goals but I'm just hoping people will give it a go!
ReplyDeleteApologies Matt and James. Accidentally deleted your comments so had to restore them manually.
ReplyDelete@Greylamb it's not the same as Blog Wars. The special character rule was created at a time when a lot of tournaments were banning SCs. I personally love them so I was rebelling against that trend. The rule became part of the identity of the event. Yes, it helped to encourage people to try something different but the event has never really been "fluffy". Not that I'd have a problem with that but I've always aimed for a friendly atmosphere rather than a fluffy event. I think I've achieved that but I don't like the idea that Blog Wars is seen as a failed attempt at a fluff tournament.
I agree though, you can't balance 40K. Believe me I've tried over the years. I don't like the idea of filling gaps with Forge World or allies though. Sadly the way GW design their rules there isn't much choice though. It's not just GW though. No matter what they do, people will find ways of bending the rules to make the dirtiest combo possible. I can't honestly see how it's any fun but whatever.
I didn't mean to give the impression I was saying Blog Wars was a failed fluffy tournament - it is the most fun I've had playing 40k. I just meant that the "friendly" side of it with regards to the actual armies, and the way people play the games has changed from a more relaxed attitude to more play to win (take a look at the infamous "Franco incident" or mild mannered Grazers recent sap to filthy spammy Eldar) now there's nothing wrong with taking it seriously, it's just, if you do turn up with a fluffy list looking for a few relaxed games you'll get stomped all day and will probably not enjoy it (I think that was the Red Steel Guy's experience)
DeleteLike I said to Matt, 40k just isn't balanced and its become a bit like Magic The Gathering - regardless of skill or how fun it can be to play thematic decks, it's the person with the most money, and a net-list that will win
If I can make it, I will, because you're totally right in saying you attract some really cool, fun people and the camaraderie is second to none. It's just a shame how sometimes when the round starts all that can seem to go out the window, when your opponents unpacks an Eldar army packed with mental Wave Serpants or worse now, D weapons galore!
I've learnt my lesson with the filthy Eldar, and they have now been packed away in a lead-lined containment device (alright, a flimsy cardboard box) and won't be coming out to play at Blog Wars, or Fluffageddon!
DeleteI am now working on an all-action Khorne Daemonkin army which should be perfect for Blog Wars and, hopefully, Matt's new event. Fluffageddon sounds like a great concept, and I'm really hoping to be able to make it along!
I wish I could make it but going to a wedding that Saturday - good luck though and I'll throw this up on Weemen.
ReplyDeleteThanks very much
DeleteSo you're telling me that I can't field my very fluffy space wolves drop pod themed army? Thanks!
ReplyDeleteI'd actaully agree with this. I think some of the most fluffy armies spam a shit load.
DeleteI agree some spammy armies could be claimed to be fluffy, but I don't believe that you need to spam units to represent any faction in a fluffy army. The idea of the tournament is to try to get people to write a varied list that also represents the faction that the army is from. This is supposed to be a challenge as people are used to just chucking in the best units from a codex into an army list.
DeleteThe tournament is called fluffageddon, but as it says in the tournament pack it isn't all about the fluff really, it's more about trying to create a tournament where everyone has to bring something a little different and hopefully some armies will be fluffy but most of all, hopefully everyone will enjoy their games.
You are free to field your fluffy space wolves drop pod army so long as there are no more than 2 duplicated units!
ReplyDeleteLooks great - I'll check my Calendar and report back. Definitely sounds fun! I'm just getting started on a Khorne Berzerker / Daemonkin army so that should fit perfectly.
ReplyDeleteWell we all know that 40 k isn't a fair game some units detatchments characters titans etc are just wrong 😁 But can I just say hats off to both Matt and alex for there efforts at trying to make the games more even and enjoyable Alex has certainly done that and I'm sure Matt will too .
ReplyDeleteLots of people seem to be interested, but no-one has committed to buying a ticket yet. I'm sure as soon as someone does, others will.
ReplyDeleteI was wondering can i use chapter tactics from forge world for my space wolves army?
ReplyDeleteThanks for the interest, but I think that since I have said no forgeworld units, it is only fair not to allow any forgeworld rules.
ReplyDeleteOh just wondering can i take more than one inquisitorial warband if there is only two duplications of having the same unit
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