tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post9084961765835322531..comments2023-04-15T10:40:46.482+01:00Comments on From The Fang: FTF Editorial - Flexibility for the Greater Good & Chaos DaemonsFrom The Fanghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01043549318855295914noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-40745232756359827752013-04-18T07:24:27.022+01:002013-04-18T07:24:27.022+01:00Something like that. Natfka does a great job and h...Something like that. Natfka does a great job and his editorials are some of my favourite posts on the blogosphere.From The Fanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043549318855295914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-63815602775558624482013-04-18T07:23:40.911+01:002013-04-18T07:23:40.911+01:00Having not really sat down with the codex (and I p...Having not really sat down with the codex (and I probably won't as I'm not really a fan of Daemons) I never thought about it this way. As a Daemon player are you glad to see the back of the screamer/flamer spam though?<br /><br />It's the sad thing about 40K. If a codex is good, everyone wants an army and you get sick of seeing them. Once it becomes mediocre (though I really don't think the Daemons book is) then they go back to being a die hard fan army. There's rarely a middle ground.From The Fanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043549318855295914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-81749892205429584982013-04-18T02:58:39.496+01:002013-04-18T02:58:39.496+01:00Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00273450677590876325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-37041005536133446582013-04-17T18:48:43.058+01:002013-04-17T18:48:43.058+01:00My problem with Daemons (and I do love them) is th...My problem with Daemons (and I do love them) is that to be effective against, say Tau) you're stuffed with what you take. <br /><br />Firstly, Daemons utterly lack mobility. After a deepstrike, that's it. Take flamers - before, ideal tank busters. Now, not. Whie good at nobbling tanks, they're less effective against Crisis suits and useless against broadsides. <br /><br />Equally, the troops have no ranged weapons and their chariots are not armoured enough or cheap enough to take in numbers. <br /><br />That means you're lumbered with some fairly mono builds, taking the same stuff over and over. It does mean expensive flying monsters - you need the mobility and the strength to take out vehicles. That means needing as many as possible chewing up nigh on 2/3rds of your points. That leaves fast attack which, well, isn't really. Screamers are not effective enough any more, Fleshhounds not armoured enough.<br /><br />Juggernaughts are now too expensive, too fragile and throwing them at something like a Riptide isn't going to kill it with the 2+ save. Crisis suits can outflank them and melta them to death. <br /><br />Basically you're forced to invest so much in unavoidable options that there's not much left to build a usable army and then the options are horribly limited. <br /><br />I do love my daemons. The army is glorious. Thing is, with so much made random and the basic loss of ethernal warrior and multiple function units (flamers glancing on a 4+, screamers attacking flyers) the Daemons codex is hard work, especially against mobile infantry with high BS, high strength, weapons and tanks. <br /><br />It's sad, but as a Daemon player you're going to have to take the same things time and again. pegboardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13181689355785748593noreply@blogger.com