tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post4913789566067203674..comments2023-04-15T10:40:46.482+01:00Comments on From The Fang: Blog Wars 9 - The Aftermath (Results)From The Fanghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01043549318855295914noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-30346393717411009862015-06-17T10:14:17.918+01:002015-06-17T10:14:17.918+01:00There are a lot of lists that seem to rely on extr...There are a lot of lists that seem to rely on extremes, tyranid flying monstrous creatures are one of those lists, but so is an all biker list or a green tide list for example, but they don't seem to get the grief that the flyrant lists do, when in essence it's the same concept. Just out of interest did you take any flyers or AA? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-18747363649123596392015-06-14T18:23:42.382+01:002015-06-14T18:23:42.382+01:00I was trying to reply to all of these individually...I was trying to reply to all of these individually but I'm still at it a few days later. I'm now making notes and writing a post to address the feedback people have given!From The Fanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043549318855295914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-71426588977618694862015-06-14T16:24:47.832+01:002015-06-14T16:24:47.832+01:00Hi Alex
Thanks for great event, was f...Hi Alex <br /> Thanks for great event, was first time and hope to come again. <br />Think Sam cover my opinion of comp best ,didn't face Knights but don't think would enjoy playing 3 and tbh tried my best to have a laugh and enjoy my game against Daniels Nids but I didn't feel like I was in the game at all, I know that one of the Knight playing said it was our responsibility to balance our army to deal with these threats but not many can have anti flyers , anti tank, anti marine and be able to deal with hordes, armies with always have something they will struggle against but saying that it can be over the top which is what I feel 3 Knight and 5 flying monster is.<br /><br />On different note food was great , didn't notice any problems with time and I have no problem with Dave winning painting, the rest of us have to give him a challenge and do better.<br /><br />Cheers again<br />Dave<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15542330122420968046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-56590172818411599112015-06-14T16:12:48.670+01:002015-06-14T16:12:48.670+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15542330122420968046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-63414784333283555472015-06-14T07:35:15.363+01:002015-06-14T07:35:15.363+01:00Woah that's a big comment. Let me try to respo...Woah that's a big comment. Let me try to respond to it all.<br /><br />Food.<br />I was really let down by them at BW8. The in-venue kitchen has now closed though and apparently Element will take over soon. In the meantime I thought subway worked well. Hot food is great but for people like Dave Weston who play til the bitter end and then have to set up for the painting comp it might be cold anyway. They can also cater for dietary requirements better. I'm happy to stick with Subway.<br /><br />Missions.<br />Glad you enjoyed maelstrom. I'm probably going to keep things the same for BW10. Need to justify making all those cards! I had thought about bringing back Control Freak in place of Emperor's Relic as it's getting a bit tired now.<br /><br />Lords of War.<br />I'm posting soon about this. Would love to hear what you think of my proposals.<br /><br />Allies.<br />I've thought about it before. A friend of ours, Rob McDougall ran an event called Faction down in London that only allowed a single rules source. The idea intrigued me but I think it's a step too far in comp for now.From The Fanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043549318855295914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-5994179138214450402015-06-12T14:15:14.329+01:002015-06-12T14:15:14.329+01:00Hi Alex
Thank you very much for what was a very w...Hi Alex<br /><br />Thank you very much for what was a very well ran tournament. I didn't even notice the late start time and everything from a food/missions/location was spot on. We will deffo be going to the next one :)<br /><br />The only thing I would comment from an organisational point of view is that I would have liked to have a separate official as a referee. Not that there was any problem with your ref'ing when i called for rulings but you seemed very busy and I was reluctant to distract you. having an on hand official that anyone could ask for rulings would have been much better.<br /><br />The hot topic of conversation seems to be lords of war and knights. I don't think lords of war should be banned, I played my first knight in the first game and didn't have a problem with it. I don't think id have liked to play three though.<br /><br />I think the problem lies in having an excessive amount of a powerful unit as opposed to the unit itself. On a related note both myself and my friend Dave played the 2nd place tyrannid player Daniel and, despite him being one of the nicest players i met all day, both Dave and I had the same feeling when we played him; when he put his army on the table in our respective games we both already knew we'd lost (a feeling I think this tournament was trying to avoid). I think the problem comes back to having an excessive amount of the same powerful unit (in this case 3 hive tyrants and a total of 5 flying monstrous creatures). I know multiple monstrous creatures is what tyrannids do but i think this was excessive.<br /><br />I'd try and avoid banning units such as knights all together but I think limiting the number on things such as knights will avoid people going up against lists that are unmanageable<br /><br />Thanks again, we all had a great day and I hope we'l be able to attend the next one <br /><br />SamAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01206208022700476982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-88201851954026082962015-06-09T23:37:25.390+01:002015-06-09T23:37:25.390+01:00Hello Alex :)
As ever, a great event. I played t...Hello Alex :) <br /><br />As ever, a great event. I played three great ppl (jacob, mj and mike) and all three of my games went down to the wire. <br /><br />I didn't have to face a LOW of any flavour, so whilst I don't have first hand thoughts I would be in the 1 per player camp. My army could prolly have dealt with 2 Knights if I'd played my cards right, but it would have been the rock to my scissors. I think there is only a certain amount you can accommodate for them, as with say having anti-horde, anti-meq etc. but I do agree with others that perhaps 1 super heavy is a better way of comping it, I'm not sure I'd be so bothered by Logan or ghazghukl (and they are special chars after all!)<br /><br />I'm also all for Dave winning the painting comps again and again and forever. If he was winning 1st place every time then the challenge would be to beat him as a player. I'd want to suggest that it's the challenge for us as painters to step up. <br /><br />I was actually really happy with subway. I don't know how easy it was for you, but it seemed blindingly simple from my end. Especially as a veggie. <br /><br />I think the missions are in the right order (not trying to argue honest!) because I'm always aware that to be in with a chance I need to beat the best there.i think that being able to table your opponent is tactically different to then adjusting to playing for objectives more and more. I like the balance, even thou I think a reversal of mission order might help me out. <br /><br />Anyways. Thank you again for an excellent experience. Really glad to be a part of something like blog wars.<br /><br />Luke Luke Darksun https://www.blogger.com/profile/14416275320673777382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-38163911085154876872015-06-09T17:10:40.341+01:002015-06-09T17:10:40.341+01:00Hi Alex well done for organising such a great even...Hi Alex well done for organising such a great event everyone seemed to have a great time. The food was good too. The games i played where ok maybe I should have brought my stompa and I would have enjoyed my games more. I like Dave found it hard to finish the games 2 and 3 in time but like dave said its my own fault for bringing a horde of necrons along. I have used my necrons in both the blogwars I've attended so maybe its time for a change? Im not sure Ive fallen out of love with the necron decurion its painfully durable and whilst my opponents will no doubt say they had a good time Im really not sure they did at least they all bleated alot about its durability. <br />Regarding the Knights to be honest I was disappointed I didn't play any and I was unfortunate to play 3 marine armies 2 of which where almost replica lists. I was pleased for both Liam and Dave and of course never entered my own army as I know they paint far better than I can ever dream of, but I will try and enter the painting comp in November if I attend. <br />In conclusion brill day Alex and the missions all work well you do a great job of trying to ward off the cheesy lists well done.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13092364989568109164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-49182750575568812822015-06-09T14:18:24.196+01:002015-06-09T14:18:24.196+01:00Hi Alex
Firstly I want to say how much I enjoyed ...Hi Alex<br /><br />Firstly I want to say how much I enjoyed the event last Saturday, I had 3 really close games (in fact losing in the closes game of round 1) and 3 really grate opponents. The whole 3 knight things seemed to course a lot of upset (especially for my friend Ryan in round 3) but I was lucky enough not to face them. I'm hoping by the next event you work something out to nurf them or the codex's become good enough to deal with them over time.<br /><br />Anyway I'm looking forward to attending an event of yours again in the future and hope they keep improving.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18341145667607557222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-77504188389031620572015-06-09T10:52:26.233+01:002015-06-09T10:52:26.233+01:00Yeah that it fair enough. I thought it unlikely th...Yeah that it fair enough. I thought it unlikely that a full ban would be considered but thought I would mention it. NafNafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15788927908701998169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-85077596886965963472015-06-09T09:39:11.215+01:002015-06-09T09:39:11.215+01:00Ryan I'm looking into the 2++/3++ and BS5 thin...Ryan I'm looking into the 2++/3++ and BS5 thing. I'll be emailing you later about it in fact. Glad you enjoyed yourself though. From The Fanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043549318855295914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-35883494722279233592015-06-09T09:35:38.392+01:002015-06-09T09:35:38.392+01:00I think Gerantius will be going but then if it is ...I think Gerantius will be going but then if it is just one super heavy per list would he be so bad<br /><br />Anyway, glad you enjoyed your first Blog Wars and hope to see you again.From The Fanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043549318855295914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-26659910629082159402015-06-09T09:29:29.366+01:002015-06-09T09:29:29.366+01:00I'm reluctant to ban them completely because s...I'm reluctant to ban them completely because some people enjoy using them and indeed playing against them. You're right I think three knights are too much but I want to discuss it properly in a separate post before deciding.From The Fanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043549318855295914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-61532595194695036402015-06-09T09:25:15.107+01:002015-06-09T09:25:15.107+01:00I'm going to look again at the scoring as it h...I'm going to look again at the scoring as it happens a few times where people win games but don't place higher. I might employ a similar system to what Matt is proposing for fluffageddon where degree of victory matters but a win is still better than a draw/loss.<br /><br />Thanks for the explanation Ian. Glad someone understands the system. I like that the scoring makes winning less important but it should still count for something.From The Fanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043549318855295914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-44976812102720521192015-06-09T00:18:31.453+01:002015-06-09T00:18:31.453+01:00Hey alex, so sad I couldnt come to blog wars, I...Hey alex, so sad I couldnt come to blog wars, I've been wanting to since I started following your blog, if only travel wasnt an issue! Hopefully I'll be able to make the one later this year, or BW11 for sure if not. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12048970768999798424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-75792010154468882312015-06-08T23:15:33.153+01:002015-06-08T23:15:33.153+01:00Hi,
Peter here,
I must say I faced 6 knights (3...Hi,<br /><br />Peter here, <br /><br />I must say I faced 6 knights (3 in game 2 and 3 in game 3) I didnt really find much a struggle ripping hull points off of them with massed gauss fire. Did especially well against your three Dave although Lord Daverus proved to be hardier than his fellows (Kirk and Calgar).<br /><br />I can see why people would struggle against 3 of them myself as it requires a lot of thought and well built lists to take them on. Necrons are a kind of hard counter to Knights as even the basic troops can drop hull points off of them. I think it boils down to Necrons also being able to take all of the punishment coming there way from the knights. After turn 2 where I somehow dropped 2 knights on the same turn I feel I had the strategy the take them on - present threats to all sides and shoot until it dies.<br /><br />Overall I think the Knights werent too much of an issue for me personally but I can see where the issue is - plus the baron formation makes them a little harder to take head on. <br /><br />Alex I will email you regarding some of my other thoughts but it was a fantastic event and I thoroughly enjoyed the challenge presented by my three opponents who were all just as brilliant.<br /><br /><br /><br />Dextrous Wombathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02593768956582646326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-44252536122806606132015-06-08T22:33:39.263+01:002015-06-08T22:33:39.263+01:00Woah! That's a lot of comments for the first d...Woah! That's a lot of comments for the first day. I've just been responding to a couple of emails about the event and I'm now going to watch GoT before going to bed. I'll respond to all these comments tomorrow at some point so bear with me.From The Fanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043549318855295914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-10137005458837048552015-06-08T12:05:24.535+01:002015-06-08T12:05:24.535+01:00Having been in a similar boat for scoring well in ...Having been in a similar boat for scoring well in Blood Points (second placed after round one, dropped about 20 places for round two after being tabled and scoring nothing, not even a secondary) I have to say I disagree...<br /><br />It looks like 9 armies got max points on the first game, 11 on the second, none on the third. So I think keeping maelstrom till last is fantastic - It's the one where you'll struggle to get max points, and hell you might even lose, but if you score a lot of points while losing you could still do better than someone who ignores the objectives and just tables their opponent.<br /><br />With so many people getting max points from game 1 and 2 I suppose they could go either way round and if you are one of the people who claim max points, well you're in amongst a substantial number. Not like you're automatically against the favourite. But as you said, just kill each other is far easier to process early in the morning, and with such a hell for leather mission being all about removing models from the table, well it's the perfect game to play before the lunchtime best army judging - chances are more of your army is back on it's tray after that game than after an objective mission.Gingehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04155099423475435032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-27535057209757256672015-06-08T11:39:59.001+01:002015-06-08T11:39:59.001+01:00Sounds like a good plan - I've posted somethin...Sounds like a good plan - I've posted something up on my club's forum about it - drop me an email at madwargaming@gmail.com if you want to discuss details, I've had a few thoughts already!Triple Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18002702481127525157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-87486415956473054682015-06-08T10:42:56.874+01:002015-06-08T10:42:56.874+01:00HI Alex,
Firstly thank you for all your work and ...HI Alex,<br /><br />Firstly thank you for all your work and effort on putting on the biggest BW ever- I was hoping that somebody would have stood up to thank you as a group at the end- and for you to get the round of applause you deserved. <br /><br />I really enjoyed the 3 games, and hopefully my opponent the same- 3 knights is a frightening prospect, however my last game verses Peter’s Necron’s I was well and truly smashed losing 2 knights by turn 2 with Gauss fire. Is there an answer to the question over allowing knights and/or formations- I’m not sure. I think there will always be 2 camps with this one, the for’s and against- with both having good reason to have/have not them in BW. It’s a tough call. <br /><br />I think with the major aspect of Blog Wars involves having at lease on special characters, I think all special characters, HQ and LoW ones should be classified as a separate unit on top of normal FOC/CAD, like the BW9 I could have had Calgar in a primary force as a HQ, and a knight, whereas if I had gone with Grey Knights Dragio would have been an LoW. This makes no sense as Calgar and Dragio are in game terms the same. <br /><br />I thought the food was great- no problems here- and the table service was excellent. Great venue also! <br /><br />I enjoyed all 3 games, it was the first time I had played Maelstorm- I enjoyed the concept, but literally my force was on its last legs by T3- so was very tricky to make the objectives by that stage. <br /><br />I understand there has been a few comments over certain lists, I’ll email you about it rather than post on here which would be unfair. <br /><br />Thanks again- and I hope I can make it to BW10! (hopefully it won’t be call Knight(less) fighting..<br />Lord TITANium Halfpennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02190609559645354960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-16127922616709404372015-06-08T10:19:41.139+01:002015-06-08T10:19:41.139+01:00Hi Dave, I really enjoyed our battle- and it could...Hi Dave, I really enjoyed our battle- and it could have gone either way if my rolling was anything like my last game! Lord TITANium Halfpennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02190609559645354960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-32219232811459393602015-06-08T10:06:34.981+01:002015-06-08T10:06:34.981+01:00Hi Alex,
this was my first blog wars and I had an...Hi Alex, <br />this was my first blog wars and I had an absolute blast. Three very tense and exciting games against some great opponents. <br />I was also fortunate enough not to play a superheavy, though I don't think I would have had much fun if I did. <br />The food was great, I didn't really notice any delays to the day and managed to get at least 5 turns played in all my games. The staff were great, you never seemed to be without a drink for long as they were always around and checking. <br /><br />Got lots of great photos and notes to write up as battle reports in the future. <br /><br />Hopefully I can make it to the next one. <br /><br />Mike (White Scars).Mike (Didcot Wargames Club)https://www.blogger.com/profile/04136576868354842829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-57132201300025514882015-06-08T09:48:52.600+01:002015-06-08T09:48:52.600+01:00Hi Alex,
First ever Blogwars and first tournament...Hi Alex,<br /><br />First ever Blogwars and first tournament full stop. I had a great day (despite losing all three games) and would love to come again. Despite not doing too well score wise, I think I gave each opponent a decent game and something to think about with the brand new, not yet proven Skitarii.<br /><br />With regards to LoW, I think limiting is fine, but banning seems a little harsh to me. Characters like Dante, while decent are not infallible and tend to be expensive anyway forcing people to make the choice. Clearly running three IKs has done some people some favours. Having only run a single Knight and having it destroyed in 2/3 games anyway, I cannot honestly say it gave me an unfair advantage, any more than running a Land Raider would. For a fragile force like Skitarii, adding a Knight seems like a good way to add a bit of heavy clout and a single knight will always draw alot of fire anyway. I could run other things with them, granted. I'd like to see a restriction of maybe 1 IK per force. Also you could consider special ally conditions for them (battle brothers only) to stop people doubling up really hard hitters. <br /><br />Either way, great day, well organised, great opponents. Looking forward to BW10!Krak Addict Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05617174141174038580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-59596649590782155032015-06-08T09:00:04.802+01:002015-06-08T09:00:04.802+01:00Hi Alex – awesome event yet again! Lost every game...Hi Alex – awesome event yet again! Lost every game, but had a blast doing it and despite my stupidly expensive and overkilly LoW, I think my opponents had fun playing me.<br /><br />Missions were great and I really enjoyed Maelstrom (my first time playing it) and I think the pre-made BW mission cards really helped.<br /><br />My thoughts on LoW – obviously I brought one, but ignoring Knights, were they particularly overpowered? I think my Lord of Skulls and a Baneblade were the bottom of the lists, so I would guess not – not sure how the others did though. Either way, mine was fun to play with, but made my army useless tactically, so I’ll be leaving it at home next time – although would have no problem if people were allowed to bring them next time (probably just one would work best I think).<br /><br />On to Knights – to sum it up, I just don’t think they are fun to play against. One is alright and most armies should be able to deal with it. Two is tricky, but if you have a decent amount of shooty you can manage it. Three or more and in general I think you need a dedicated list to counter it and some armies don’t even have that option – which IMO makes them at odds with the ethos of Blog Wars. And that is when you are just looking at basic Knights – when you start adding in named Knight characters (which we all thought you said wasn’t allowed) and formations to boost them – as well as rules being played wrong or manipulated (which I heard of anecdotally from a number of players and it probably ruined their games) I think they just don’t work. <br /><br />I think an overall restriction of 1 LoW would work and hopefully solve the issue. I expect you’d have moaning Knight players but you can’t please everyone (despite me moaning to you about Forgeworld units every tournament, I realise they are restricted for the same reasons).<br /><br />Painting comps were great – Dave absolutely deserved a win again and letting players self-moderate if they don’t want to vote for an army or character that has previously won is their own prerogative. I really liked the conversion comp but maybe it would be helpful to have had a field on the painting slip to indicate which model(s) you are entering and what the conversion is. For example, I thought Liam’s was stunning, but I didn’t really focus on that one model because of the effort he put in to all of his army and I didn’t know what conversion work he’d actually done on the model.<br /><br />Overall - great day and already thinking about BW10!<br />the 6th degreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10114651433321299632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-8843447854087385392015-06-08T08:44:42.270+01:002015-06-08T08:44:42.270+01:00Hi Alex,
Jonathan Lyness here, just in the office...Hi Alex,<br /><br />Jonathan Lyness here, just in the office at the minute, I had a great time at Blogwars 9 (much better than I initially expected) and this was very much in relation to my great opponents!<br /><br />I had some amazing games at the event and I am more than happy to attend, just hoping to make sure I get the time off from work (the joys of having to work abroad at the drop of a hat).<br /><br />The day was great and I have some great memories of the day:<br /><br />Game 1 - The Benny Hill Show featuring Warp Spiders, Deathwing Knights and Black Knights<br /><br />Game 2 - The Rocky Double Knock-Out - Arjac rockfist and my techmarine both killing each other on the final rolls<br /><br />Game 3 - Vulkan He'Stan forgetting he wasn't eternal warrior and taking a smite mode smash to the face from the deathwing knights before they got bogged down in combat.<br /><br />Really happy that my purple Sammael got some votes for the painting as I enjoy painting more often than playing, especially with the amazing models that were also at the event! The Tyranids were amazing, loved the blimps, Farsight was amazing and those tau objective markers were definitely the best conversion I seen on the day!<br /><br />I can't really pass judgement on the restriction of IK's as I didnt face any on the day (though any more than one and I would have been unable to deal with them with my list). I think a vote on their restriction is the best way to go, though I would always be hesitant to restrict what someone wants to play especially if they can come up with a valid fluff reason. I think named LOW's should not be removed as they are less of a game breaker in my opinion.<br /><br />All in all, a great day met some amazing people, saw amazing models and definitely looking forward to the next blogwars! <br /><br />PS. And Tess, I seen you came ahead of me in the end, so a friendly rivalry is now born! :PAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com