tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post8316824666865463963..comments2023-04-15T10:40:46.482+01:00Comments on From The Fang: Blog Wars 6 - Two Months to go! - Comp Discussion Round-upFrom The Fanghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01043549318855295914noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-4378141085611381502013-09-06T19:09:42.558+01:002013-09-06T19:09:42.558+01:00As greylamb says you're penalising people with...As greylamb says you're penalising people with smaller collections. Themes to me just seem like comp by another name. Some armies simply can't do fast for example. I agree it rewards a bit of fluff but I have to say I think it would punish some. <br /><br />I have done an army theme in the past and I think it's probably something that should return.From The Fanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043549318855295914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-66714383196208810652013-09-06T19:07:49.433+01:002013-09-06T19:07:49.433+01:00You're right, I don't want to discourage a...You're right, I don't want to discourage anyone. Which is why I've essentially kept things the same. I tend to try and avoid one person winning two prizes which is why I don't have a "Bloodiest General" or equivalent. It's rare you get someone doing well in the competitive stakes that's painted their army to an amazing standard.From The Fanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043549318855295914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-71933010441513194432013-09-06T19:06:25.081+01:002013-09-06T19:06:25.081+01:00Thanks for the support mate. Sorry you can't m...Thanks for the support mate. Sorry you can't make it to BW6. Glad you like the wraithknight. To be honest I love giving stuff away at the raffle more than I like handing out the tournament prizes!From The Fanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043549318855295914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-9490998458327761402013-09-06T19:05:14.744+01:002013-09-06T19:05:14.744+01:00I'd love to think suggesting they bring someth...I'd love to think suggesting they bring something different would work. Sadly, realistically I know there'll be a couple.<br /><br />I like the idea of an Imperial vs. Xenos kind of thing but perhaps I can wait and see if obvious factions emerge when I get the lists.From The Fanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043549318855295914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-91799041012810235222013-09-06T19:03:58.506+01:002013-09-06T19:03:58.506+01:00I seem to have stopped him inadvertantly with a ve...I seem to have stopped him inadvertantly with a venue change (who knew it would be so easy?!). Hopefully he'll make it to one at some point at the new venue but it's a long slog. <br /><br />Are you thinking of joining us again?From The Fanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043549318855295914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-57858842652082328412013-09-06T19:02:59.331+01:002013-09-06T19:02:59.331+01:00Glad you're looking forward to it mate. I thin...Glad you're looking forward to it mate. I think it's the right call and I hope everyone can see why.From The Fanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043549318855295914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-33378914540499279062013-09-04T10:47:00.938+01:002013-09-04T10:47:00.938+01:00@Grazer - This does overly favour those with huge ...@Grazer - This does overly favour those with huge collections and different armies though - unlike me who has the monkeys and that's about it. <br /><br />One thing you could do is suggest a general theme for all submissions with some "wriggle room" and maybe a small in-game reward for sticking to the theme. For example you could say all armies could be "Speed Themed" this would suggest lots of fast attack, highly mobile transports, bikes, deep strike etc. etc. Obviously this is quite expansive and includes a lot of different build options for all the armies in the game. For those people who build to this ethos you could give them a bonus for each mission such as an in game re-roll, + 1 to reserves or something similar. This rewards people for being fluffy but doesn't unnecessarily punish those who still want to bring whatever list they want. There could also be a prize for the army that best met the theme of the event.Greylambhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01985651823820150651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-39615925483788036562013-09-03T13:21:30.753+01:002013-09-03T13:21:30.753+01:00One thing I really liked from the comments on the ...One thing I really liked from the comments on the previous discussion on comp was the suggestion that each player be allowed to bring three lists, and be allowed to pick whichever list worked best against his opponent. <br /><br />I think that would alleviate a lot of the problems found in match-ups using 'all-comer' lists. <br /><br />To make it more fun, you could say that each player can only use each variant of his list once. Grazerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11655670492430053270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-61984882531780694912013-09-03T08:34:55.817+01:002013-09-03T08:34:55.817+01:00It was Pete that came along played a few games and...It was Pete that came along played a few games and got a Wraithknight to boot (I had a few games with him last week!) and I agree with your decision that comping the tournament would be extremely hard to do in a balanced way. Really looking forward to the day!Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06145182427086914615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-45453454705546898362013-09-03T00:22:52.283+01:002013-09-03T00:22:52.283+01:00I stress equality because any feelings of (over th...I stress equality because any feelings of (over the top) favoritism can discourage players (of ether side), and you want as many as possible to show up as possible. More player means better prizes, and enhances the social aspects of the event.Leonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01094776193838470456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-64554262942071970392013-09-03T00:12:54.099+01:002013-09-03T00:12:54.099+01:00"Essentially what I think you're saying i..."Essentially what I think you're saying is make the prizes for the competitive bit pale in comparison to the prizes for being a nice guy!"<br />(I was on my phone when I posted)<br /><br />Well I wouldn't say pale, but I think there should be [b]equal[/b] rearwards for being a Warlord, and a Fluff Master, so to speak. Its a game too, so I would try not to kick people for playing the game.<br /><br />This does two things. Keeps both sides even and happy, and gives both sides more chances to win. Nothing I hate more than thinking "I have to make 3rd to at least get something".<br /><br />Also make it so you can't double up, if someone places and wins a theme prize make them choose, and the runner up gets what he passed on.<br />Leonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01094776193838470456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-55334582584538184012013-09-02T22:34:50.785+01:002013-09-02T22:34:50.785+01:00I must say the raffle is a brilliant idea and that...I must say the raffle is a brilliant idea and that wraithknight although still unpainted is amazing - I love it! (thought id make myself known :P )<br /><br /> Having only attended 2 Blogwars tournaments I think yopu have it about right - you cant stop people bringing powerful lists but with the top prize being limited it does make you wonder....why win the boring way when you can have fun! :)<br /><br />Big fan of your tournaments - hopefully i can make BW7 as I cant afford BW6 for the moment!Dextrous Wombathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02593768956582646326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-23552353962150109212013-09-02T22:14:27.164+01:002013-09-02T22:14:27.164+01:00I'm glad to hear this was ultimately the decis...I'm glad to hear this was ultimately the decision, and you make very good points as to why you have made the decision. Ultimately, I think the small prizes for placing, and focus on raffle and spot prizes is the best comp. Hopefully those that do bring harsh lists will ultimately get the message.Andy - bGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15248283508785967847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-39883405159420702262013-09-02T20:47:19.417+01:002013-09-02T20:47:19.417+01:00Glad to hear there isn't going to be comp. I&#...Glad to hear there isn't going to be comp. I'm not keen on it as it divides players, shows up the disparity between older and newer codices, and can make people think "He only won because of the comp" or, "I would have done better were it not for the comp."<br /><br />If I win(!), I want it to be because I beat the best players and played against the best armies. So bring on the top players, I say - it'll even up the competition as they'll be more top players to rival the big guns, leaving us 'fun-runners' to battle each other in the Cup-Cake Challenge for last place!<br /><br />What you can do as TO is to 'suggest' to the top players that they bring something a little different. They are geek fan-boys just like us at the end if the day, and would probably relish the idea if running something out of the ordinary - they just need that nudge in the right direction to get into a different mind-set. <br /><br />Alternatively, split the players into two factions and run the day as a campaign, where one faction wins and the other loses, based on the overall results of the day. Grazerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11655670492430053270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-40874204293977924172013-09-02T19:27:42.852+01:002013-09-02T19:27:42.852+01:00Second from bottom paragraph needs editing mate, i...Second from bottom paragraph needs editing mate, it should read " I'm never going to stop Andy Humphries from bringing the latest spammy army so he can club everyone's fluffy armies to death all day."<br /><br />;)Bradimus Primehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16338358016421779720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-90497805590471764302013-09-02T17:11:13.305+01:002013-09-02T17:11:13.305+01:00Excellent point - sir. Still looking forward to BW...Excellent point - sir. Still looking forward to BW6 regardless of what you would have done. the 6th degreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10114651433321299632noreply@blogger.com