tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post4443884437280989503..comments2023-04-15T10:40:46.482+01:00Comments on From The Fang: Thoughts on the Relentless Codex Regeneration Cycle!From The Fanghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01043549318855295914noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-25762845570158178882014-10-01T17:38:58.109+01:002014-10-01T17:38:58.109+01:00On Tau: Is that not just because the current meta ...On Tau: Is that not just because the current meta is to run a shooty army, which Tau will always end up trumps (Combined with a general lack of terrain in alot of games). <br /><br />If you run a list that can get into combat with them, with several units at once (This somewhat negates the multiple overwatch.. By sacrificing a unit) ... Well then they crumble.<br /><br />I think a Tau gunline is very much a rock-paper-scissor list. Against any dedicated combat list it will fail, as long as the gap can be closed quick enough.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-69959041441685937542014-10-01T13:56:58.923+01:002014-10-01T13:56:58.923+01:00Having just been working on an ork summoning daemo...Having just been working on an ork summoning daemon list...my god the daemon book is confusing. Trying to find rules requires multiple books. Just tell me what it does already!greggleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15528518337222880432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-46301954915686010222014-10-01T13:55:34.889+01:002014-10-01T13:55:34.889+01:00Missing Zoggy was bad...but you can take three wei...Missing Zoggy was bad...but you can take three weirdboyz to compensate...and they can summon daemon orks! (and die in the process, which is so friggin orky!)greggleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15528518337222880432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-59388973658162512462014-10-01T13:54:30.912+01:002014-10-01T13:54:30.912+01:00I think Tau (outside of markerlights granting igno...I think Tau (outside of markerlights granting ignore cover to pretty much anything) is pretty balanced now since 7th has really punched them down.<br /><br />Riptides getting FNP on their failed nova needs to change though (should be an auto wound).<br /><br />Then shuffle their points around. I think people would be fine with ignore cover changing to "ignore jink" or reduce cover saves by 2.<br /><br />The necron players are already tearing up over what is going to happen to their codex. If its anything like 7th codexes have shown so far...it's going to be viciously brutal.greggleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15528518337222880432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-40771730346224730022014-10-01T13:30:42.474+01:002014-10-01T13:30:42.474+01:00The Daemon Dex is problematic because so much stuf...The Daemon Dex is problematic because so much stuff is organized alphabetically, or in odd categories, that do have some inherent sense to them, but no relation to how they're purchased or used in the Army. The Loci, for instance, would be so much more convenient if they were organized by Chaos God and level, rather than level and then alphabetical.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-72810520985107286152014-09-30T20:20:16.453+01:002014-09-30T20:20:16.453+01:00I think the ultimate problem for the game at the m...I think the ultimate problem for the game at the moment is that Eldar, Tau and to an extent Necrons seem to be in a totally different league to anything else. Necrons should be getting sorted before the end of the year but while ever people are comparing the new books to Tau or Eldar they're always going to feel cheated.<br /><br />Frankly I find the strength of the Tau book to be an annoyance. I was frustrated with how outdated they felt before but since the new book people groan when they see you run Tau!From The Fanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043549318855295914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-35191145555394710892014-09-30T20:17:58.633+01:002014-09-30T20:17:58.633+01:00Must've missed it when I was copying stuff fro...Must've missed it when I was copying stuff from Wikipedia. By no means deliberate as I really like the Ork codex. My only issue with it was that I was just starting to plan some new lists and paint up some models when the SW codex came out and distracted me. Generally speaking I think the Ork book is great although I miss Zogwort!From The Fanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043549318855295914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-27073754577902145952014-09-30T20:16:18.175+01:002014-09-30T20:16:18.175+01:00Seems a reasonable suggestion. It'd be nice fo...Seems a reasonable suggestion. It'd be nice for all the different books to at least look the same for a while!From The Fanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043549318855295914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-31396852361914613282014-09-30T20:15:25.542+01:002014-09-30T20:15:25.542+01:00I don't think the new books are necessarily bo...I don't think the new books are necessarily boring. Sure there's a lot of fluffy options gone but you can still make interesting and fun armies with all of the new books so far.From The Fanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043549318855295914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-32363443883181688092014-09-30T20:14:39.859+01:002014-09-30T20:14:39.859+01:00I have to say it took a bit of getting used to the...I have to say it took a bit of getting used to the new layout but generally speaking they're better. There's less repetition of rules for example. What I'm not so keen on is having to flick back and forth to the reference section for different weapons and the datasheets make it harder to see at a glance all your options for a particular FOC slot.From The Fanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043549318855295914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-46631570976573916542014-09-29T20:43:03.159+01:002014-09-29T20:43:03.159+01:00No, you're totally right. The 7th ed books (an...No, you're totally right. The 7th ed books (and Tyranids I guess) with their formations and LoWs have been really unbalanced compared to the excellently balanced books of 2013. They really need to start toning down these recent codexes!Arclighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02405116393377981888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-55752470713165756722014-09-29T20:39:50.109+01:002014-09-29T20:39:50.109+01:00Bear in mind though that the CSM book was 2 years ...Bear in mind though that the CSM book was 2 years ago. Much has changed since then. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the vast, vast majority of 'leaks' from more than a few days before a release originated from GW.<br /><br />Onto the prediction… the way GW seem to be rushing the codexes at present would seem to lend some credence to the theory that they are trying to get everything into hardback before shifting a bit more focus back onto Fantasy for next year. I can't imagine them slowing down the pace of releases to what it used to be, but cutting down to a codex every 2-3 months as they update the earlier hardbacks would make sense.Arclighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02405116393377981888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-89782510885876264932014-09-29T15:39:40.906+01:002014-09-29T15:39:40.906+01:00GW really needs some WD updates to give all armies...GW really needs some WD updates to give all armies some LoW/Formations... As it is those are the only things unbalancing the game.Leonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01094776193838470456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-47894338094391199402014-09-29T13:37:27.221+01:002014-09-29T13:37:27.221+01:00Fast and fun to face on a table top. Fast and fun to face on a table top. Wolf Lord Ulthane Allslayerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08811447232002716025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-62446860594918969682014-09-29T12:08:13.784+01:002014-09-29T12:08:13.784+01:00I actually find the ork dex is actually quite stro...I actually find the ork dex is actually quite strong in this meta. You just can't play it the way you used to play. Heck one ork player was almost in the top bracket at nova open (pure orks). Green tide is ridiculous now. It's SO fast.greggleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15528518337222880432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-69832102345254427842014-09-29T08:50:30.859+01:002014-09-29T08:50:30.859+01:00if it follows current trends it might be even more...if it follows current trends it might be even more boring than the present book...Knight of Infinite Resignationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02680099835726778306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-67027248042139225082014-09-29T07:50:41.167+01:002014-09-29T07:50:41.167+01:00I think that was the general consensus on the ork ...I think that was the general consensus on the ork dex! ;)<br /><br />Yeah, too much, too fast, I'm sick of it, it's actually got me stopping spending on GW atm, I have no interest in being milked by GW!hornywingythingyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12087127321513348159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-85608076061413602212014-09-29T02:46:35.553+01:002014-09-29T02:46:35.553+01:00Was the Ork codex that forgetable? (Its not on yo...Was the Ork codex that forgetable? (Its not on your list!)<br /><br />Aaron Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-83458600778835546712014-09-29T00:23:40.608+01:002014-09-29T00:23:40.608+01:00My money is that once the last paperback codex has...My money is that once the last paperback codex has gone hard ;) then WHFB will get the speed treatment, andd 40k will take a back seat for WHB 9th Ed reboot.MC Tic Tachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15949140720088475873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-77840889268965260262014-09-28T23:05:12.776+01:002014-09-28T23:05:12.776+01:00Streamlining seems to be new word for simply remov...Streamlining seems to be new word for simply removing interesting things. Tbh, I don't think that any book besides Chaos Daemons is complicated, you got many options you can choose from, and small special rules made some units (GK vehicles) look apart from the standard ones. I really enjoyed those. All this removal of options and versatility is sad, I would rather prefere the opposite, adding even more options to units to make them look unique and fluffy. <br /><br />The only complicated thing imo is the rule book itself, introducing 4 different warlord tables, 5 or even 6 different schools of magic. Then adding challenges and precision hits in 6th, removing most of those rules again in 7th. Introducing unbound .. who needed that ? In my area, if you asked if it is ok to play a fluffy list and not be bound by the FOC, most of the players wouldn't have turned you down anyway. Shadowcl4whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06540015388940756136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-83523482990928904852014-09-28T20:44:39.229+01:002014-09-28T20:44:39.229+01:00I'd love a new CSM book. I really would. IF it...I'd love a new CSM book. I really would. IF it y'know- had new units and fun options. <br />I really want a new eldar codex. Some stuff needs sorting out. Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16491499177175917220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-56529012891532023412014-09-28T20:16:13.848+01:002014-09-28T20:16:13.848+01:00I'm looking forward to a new daemon book...jus...I'm looking forward to a new daemon book...just to reorganize the thing...it takes so long to find anything in that book. It's absurd. One thing you have to give the new codexes...at least they put a lot of the information in an organized and easy to find manner!greggleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15528518337222880432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-61447620189110317502014-09-28T20:13:12.112+01:002014-09-28T20:13:12.112+01:00It certainly seems too soon to hit me with another...It certainly seems too soon to hit me with another CSM book, but then again the whole of 6th edition lasted barely longer than 18 months, and to be honest the current book is so flavourless and under-powered that I almost want it to be refreshed, if it weren't for the stupid cost of £30 so soon after the unnecessary expense of 7th.Knight of Infinite Resignationnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-40932593371785539702014-09-28T19:50:20.997+01:002014-09-28T19:50:20.997+01:00Well, speaking as someone who's been responsib...Well, speaking as someone who's been responsible for leaks before (pictures and Q&A of CSM book), I know that not all of the leaks are GW's creation. Having said that you could argue that the only reason they showed ppl the CSM book at Games Day was so it would get leaked. I took great pictures but took them down pretty quick when I considered the copyright implications. <br /><br />I can see GW doing all the books by the end of next year but they might've pissed a lot of players off by then. From The Fanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043549318855295914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2320541665600624608.post-14878563997660875192014-09-28T18:09:24.646+01:002014-09-28T18:09:24.646+01:00I definitely think GW is releasing the leaks thems...I definitely think GW is releasing the leaks themselves. It's the only reason why they would start out "so shaky photo'd" then slowly get better as the week progresses. Anyone with a semi modern cell phone can take better photos then most of the initial leaks. <br /><br />As to the codex releases, I'm almost certain they are going to hit "all" the codexes, until everything falls in line with one another. It's the only way the current "re-balancing" makes sense. I assume the hardbacks will just get rapid releases (one a month once they redo the old ones), until everyone is caught up. (I feel so horribly bad for eldar.)<br /><br />Then they'll release an 8th edition rulebook to tie it all together. <br /><br />At that point we'll all be out of tears and money.<br /><br />Note: This is all made up on my part. I have no sources. I am not a magical greggles of figuring things out. <br />greggleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15528518337222880432noreply@blogger.com